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Post  Ross on Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:18 pm

If it is assumed that there is a uncaused cause that caused causality, that it itself is not acted upon, free of the causality it caused, that set in motion all other causes, or effects of the initial cause, to infer the existence of God is not only unnecessary ,but also disheartening to do so. If the existence of God is inferred because He must be the initial cause of all things then by this logic, it must be further inferred that God must be the cause of all evil and suffering in all its forms. If God knowingly caused evil to exist he is not intrinsically good. If God knows of the evil He has set in motion, why then does he not stop it? If he is unable to stop causality, because He is outside causality, or He subjected Himself to causality making all of his actions effects of his initial cause, thus making him not omnipotent. If he is able to undo the evil has done through his initial cause though chooses not, he is not intrinsically good. If God unknowingly caused evil in all its forms God is not omniscient.

For something to create all other things, a creator without a creator, not only is unnecessary to infer the existence of God to be said creator, also disheartening to do so. If God was the creator of all things then this entails that God created evil in all its forms. If God knowingly created evil in all its forms, He is not intrinsically good. If God unknowingly created evil, He is not omniscient.

If something is necessary to exist to make for all unnecessary things exists, not only is it unnecessary to infer the existence of God, but disheartening to do so. If God exists to make all unnecessary things exist, the existence of God made all the unnecessary evil exist.

Finding an objective morality from God is impossible, because if God exists, being intrinsically good all things He set in motion and created would be his will, and his will being good, thus all things regardless of how they seem to humans would be good because all things would be God’s will. Therefore every human could judge his action as good if one says it is the will of God.

If thing are said to moving towards a purpose. This would be in conflict with the first proof because all things in motion will merely be the ends to which they were acted upon by the initial cause .To infer the existence of God would make end results of his initial cause His doing. Thus giving purpose to evil in all its forms.

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